Comments on: If I sound bitter about the Sonics, it’s probably because I am http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/ Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow | Opinions on Seattle Sports That Nobody Asked For Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:51:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Beef's Dad http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15464 Beef's Dad Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:40:08 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15464 The fudamental premise of any attempt to get another NBA franchise or an NHL franchise, or both, is to go 100% private on the arena or for the legislature to create a taxing mechanism that could be used by any city, not just Seattle. Seattle had its chance, but given the continuing lack of poilitical leadership, and the nature of Seattle politics genrally, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to start over in Seattle, unles it is a 100% private deal. Then again, what did we expect from a City whose CEO received his "termimal degree" from Seattle Prep? The fudamental premise of any attempt to get another NBA franchise or an NHL franchise, or both, is to go 100% private on the arena or for the legislature to create a taxing mechanism that could be used by any city, not just Seattle. Seattle had its chance, but given the continuing lack of poilitical leadership, and the nature of Seattle politics genrally, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to start over in Seattle, unles it is a 100% private deal. Then again, what did we expect from a City whose CEO received his “termimal degree” from Seattle Prep?

]]> By: Dave http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15463 Dave Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:50:47 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15463 I'm with ya. Nickels sold out big time. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/34714-dear-seattle-mayor-greg-nickelsyou-sold-out-your-city I’m with ya. Nickels sold out big time.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/34714-dear-seattle-mayor-greg-nickelsyou-sold-out-your-city

]]> By: LS-DubC http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15461 LS-DubC Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:26:26 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15461 work* work*

]]> By: LS-DubC http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15460 LS-DubC Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:26:02 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15460 excellent word Constable excellent word Constable

]]> By: Shaggy http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15459 Shaggy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:44:23 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15459 I actually meant to say I am "now rooting" for the Blazers. Funny how one letter changes everything. The NBA can wash my balls (and wash 'em good), but I will now direct all cheer towards Brandon Muthafuckin Roy. All of the elected officials stand no chance of serving more terms. It just won't happen. Nothing in this town has been accomplished in the last few years. Maybe the constituents have a lot to do with it, but just like baseball, you fire the manager before you fire the players. I hope McLaren is ready for some company. I actually meant to say I am “now rooting” for the Blazers. Funny how one letter changes everything. The NBA can wash my balls (and wash ‘em good), but I will now direct all cheer towards Brandon Muthafuckin Roy.

All of the elected officials stand no chance of serving more terms. It just won’t happen. Nothing in this town has been accomplished in the last few years. Maybe the constituents have a lot to do with it, but just like baseball, you fire the manager before you fire the players. I hope McLaren is ready for some company.

]]> By: Pooh http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15458 Pooh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:02:00 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15458 Dave is right, I don't blame OKC at all. They wanted a team, they are getting a team. The most upsetting thing is the way that all of Washington State's elected leaders behaved. From the Governor on down the line, right to the Seattle City Council and Mayor. Thanks to all of them for turning Seattle into a city that now has a football and baseball team only...just like Cincinatti, Kansas City, Pittsburgh (but at least THEY have an NHL team). Goddamnit, even Oakland (Oakland!) has three pro teams. Nick Licata, ask business owners on Queen Anne if the Sonics actually have a financial impact on the city...dick. And no, I also will not root for the Blazers. Dave is right, I don’t blame OKC at all. They wanted a team, they are getting a team. The most upsetting thing is the way that all of Washington State’s elected leaders behaved. From the Governor on down the line, right to the Seattle City Council and Mayor.

Thanks to all of them for turning Seattle into a city that now has a football and baseball team only…just like Cincinatti, Kansas City, Pittsburgh (but at least THEY have an NHL team). Goddamnit, even Oakland (Oakland!) has three pro teams.

Nick Licata, ask business owners on Queen Anne if the Sonics actually have a financial impact on the city…dick.

And no, I also will not root for the Blazers.

]]> By: Fig Jam http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15457 Fig Jam Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:49:35 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15457 I am all in favor of mass transportation. However - this will probably be a problem for a lot of elected officials. The City and State gov't of Washington put on a clinic on how to shift responsibility to others during this whole affair. Nobody stepped up and took responsibility for anything. Zero leadership. Nickels is at the head of that bus. Nobody is going to buy his spin job. He was the mayor that let the Sonics leave Seattle. Mr. Echelon -You are Jean Valjean to Clay Bennett's Javert. We need someone to be Cossette though. I am all in favor of mass transportation.

However - this will probably be a problem for a lot of elected officials. The City and State gov’t of Washington put on a clinic on how to shift responsibility to others during this whole affair. Nobody stepped up and took responsibility for anything. Zero leadership. Nickels is at the head of that bus. Nobody is going to buy his spin job. He was the mayor that let the Sonics leave Seattle.

Mr. Echelon -You are Jean Valjean to Clay Bennett’s Javert. We need someone to be Cossette though.

]]> By: the city http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15456 the city Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:32:16 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15456 http://www.fuckyouclaybennett.com/ - hilarious Those god damn Oklahomans are a bunch of beastubers if you ask me http://www.fuckyouclaybennett.com/ - hilarious

Those god damn Oklahomans are a bunch of beastubers if you ask me

]]> By: Tubby http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15455 Tubby Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:29:03 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15455 Our Mayor decided that money was more important to our city than it's culture, identity, and heritage. Congratulations Mayor Nickels, you just turned Seattle into LA. At least we'll have money to expand the monorail. Our Mayor decided that money was more important to our city than it’s culture, identity, and heritage. Congratulations Mayor Nickels, you just turned Seattle into LA. At least we’ll have money to expand the monorail.

]]> By: Sonics Eulogies :: Sports Northwest Magazine http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15453 Sonics Eulogies :: Sports Northwest Magazine Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:04:41 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15453 [...] Constable Echelon, Hot Dog & Friends: I’m currently studying a little revolutionary era France. I’ll admit it’s always been a little hard to wrap my head around the idea of a society so unjust that the only recourse for the common man was to take to the streets, round up those responsible, and cut off their heads. I imagine that insatiable bloodlust started with those people feeling like I feel right now. [...] [...] Constable Echelon, Hot Dog & Friends: I’m currently studying a little revolutionary era France. I’ll admit it’s always been a little hard to wrap my head around the idea of a society so unjust that the only recourse for the common man was to take to the streets, round up those responsible, and cut off their heads. I imagine that insatiable bloodlust started with those people feeling like I feel right now. [...]

]]> By: Shaggy http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15452 Shaggy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:04:08 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15452 #1 top viewed story on the Daily Oklahoman's website (newsok.com): "Dog sex tapes lead to arrests" I'm not mad at OKC either, who will get a chance to watch Durant for a few years. It's going to be weird seeing highlights of that team in different uniforms. I know it's totally sacrilegious, but I'm not rooting for B-Roy and co. #1 top viewed story on the Daily Oklahoman’s website (newsok.com):
“Dog sex tapes lead to arrests”

I’m not mad at OKC either, who will get a chance to watch Durant for a few years. It’s going to be weird seeing highlights of that team in different uniforms. I know it’s totally sacrilegious, but I’m not rooting for B-Roy and co.

]]> By: Uncle Ned http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15450 Uncle Ned Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:41:47 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15450 Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

]]> By: Scott Jacobs http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15448 Scott Jacobs Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:41:40 +0000 http://hotdogandfriends.com/2008/07/02/if-i-sound-bitter-its-probably-because-i-am/#comment-15448 Fabulous article man. It was logical and forthcoming, yet really made valiant points. And your point about the NBA coming out for your team, meaning no one is safe, is a scary and worrisome reality that NBA cities will be forced to deal with in the years ahead. What's 41 years right? It's only like half of the average human being's lifetime. Nah, that's nothing. Pssttt, so sad. A lot of good comes from sports, but there are also a lot of jerks too. A dark day in Seattle indeed. Fabulous article man. It was logical and forthcoming, yet really made valiant points. And your point about the NBA coming out for your team, meaning no one is safe, is a scary and worrisome reality that NBA cities will be forced to deal with in the years ahead. What’s 41 years right? It’s only like half of the average human being’s lifetime. Nah, that’s nothing. Pssttt, so sad. A lot of good comes from sports, but there are also a lot of jerks too. A dark day in Seattle indeed.

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