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	<title>Comments on: Notre Dame&#8217;s 2 point conversion&#8230;. not even close</title>
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		<title>By: CFBForever</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20338</link>
		<dc:creator>CFBForever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Huskies suck for not being able to punch it in from the 1 yard line.

Yes, bad calls don&#039;t guarantee the game would have been won by the Huskies.

But NO, none of that is a valid defense for the refs&#039;/replay officials&#039; bad calling.

Polk&#039;s TD was too close to be overturned.  The original ruling should have been upheld, and it happened to have been a touchdown.  If the original ruling was not a touchdown, then I&#039;d agree that the hypothetical &quot;not TD&quot; ruling in this case should have upheld.  Things being as they are, the original ruling was a TD and there was no indisputable evidence to overturn that.

I can see why people say the 2 pt conversion has no indisputable evidence based on the photo here, but look at this: http://www.bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-news/2009/10/05/pac-10-week-5-report-card/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Huskies suck for not being able to punch it in from the 1 yard line.</p>
<p>Yes, bad calls don&#8217;t guarantee the game would have been won by the Huskies.</p>
<p>But NO, none of that is a valid defense for the refs&#8217;/replay officials&#8217; bad calling.</p>
<p>Polk&#8217;s TD was too close to be overturned.  The original ruling should have been upheld, and it happened to have been a touchdown.  If the original ruling was not a touchdown, then I&#8217;d agree that the hypothetical &#8220;not TD&#8221; ruling in this case should have upheld.  Things being as they are, the original ruling was a TD and there was no indisputable evidence to overturn that.</p>
<p>I can see why people say the 2 pt conversion has no indisputable evidence based on the photo here, but look at this: <a href="http://www.bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-news/2009/10/05/pac-10-week-5-report-card/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-news/2009/10/05/pac-10-week-5-report-card/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20197</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were lots of blown calls in this game, including the 38 yard reception by UW on their last drive in regulation.  The receiver bobbles the ball as he is going down and it bounces off the turf before he cradles it.  The pass was ruled complete and no replay review.  That&#039;s forty yards of field position.

Like I said, lots of blown calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were lots of blown calls in this game, including the 38 yard reception by UW on their last drive in regulation.  The receiver bobbles the ball as he is going down and it bounces off the turf before he cradles it.  The pass was ruled complete and no replay review.  That&#8217;s forty yards of field position.</p>
<p>Like I said, lots of blown calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Clown Baby</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20196</link>
		<dc:creator>Clown Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were bad calls on both sides.  The one that no one has spoke about was that on UW&#039;s last drive in regulation (for the tying FG).  On 3rd and 10 ball on the Washington 37 33 seconds left.  The 37 yard pass to James Johnson hit the ground as he fell to the ground!  It should have been an incomplete pass.  Am I the only one who saw this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were bad calls on both sides.  The one that no one has spoke about was that on UW&#8217;s last drive in regulation (for the tying FG).  On 3rd and 10 ball on the Washington 37 33 seconds left.  The 37 yard pass to James Johnson hit the ground as he fell to the ground!  It should have been an incomplete pass.  Am I the only one who saw this?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-news/2009/10/05/pac-10-week-5-report-card/

This photo is conclusive evidence that the 2 pt. conversion was no good.</description>
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<p>This photo is conclusive evidence that the 2 pt. conversion was no good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandrake Faces</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandrake Faces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that people censor themselves on here.  People go ahead and let the fucks and shits and cunts and faggots fly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that people censor themselves on here.  People go ahead and let the fucks and shits and cunts and faggots fly!</p>
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		<title>By: flawson</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20183</link>
		<dc:creator>flawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So about this &quot;Big D&quot;....has Tubby measured it yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So about this &#8220;Big D&#8221;&#8230;.has Tubby measured it yet?</p>
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		<title>By: daven</title>
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		<dc:creator>daven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Seahawks fan, and all of the Seahawks fans were complaining about bad calls after the Superbowl loss to Pittsburgh. Simply put, if you play a better game than your opponent, a couple blown calls won&#039;t decide the game. You have to give yourself enough of a cushion becaue it&#039;s always a possibility.

don&#039;t whine about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Seahawks fan, and all of the Seahawks fans were complaining about bad calls after the Superbowl loss to Pittsburgh. Simply put, if you play a better game than your opponent, a couple blown calls won&#8217;t decide the game. You have to give yourself enough of a cushion becaue it&#8217;s always a possibility.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t whine about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H&amp;F has arrived. Legitimate threats on the message board. Congrats guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H&amp;F has arrived. Legitimate threats on the message board. Congrats guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Knute</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20171</link>
		<dc:creator>Knute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hughes was down.  No question.

Another matter to consider, though: After ND took the lead, on a 3rd and 10, Locker completed a long pass to get near FG range.  Watch the replay.  The UW WR loses the ball as he comes down and it hits the ground.  UW hurried to the LOS, and the next snap came before anyone had any notion it was an incompletion.

As a ND fan, I cringed when other ND fans cried about refs after the UM game.  We had our chances.  We didn&#039;t make the plays.  Were there bad calls?  You bet.  It was atrocious.  But ND had its chances anyway.

Same deal with UW.  Hughes was down.  I agree.  But the Huskies should be looking at themselves after the game.  You can&#039;t get 1 yard in 8 tries?  You can&#039;t bring down a RB when he&#039;s wrapped up at the 4 by 5 guys?  Blaming the refs is easy.  It&#039;s why fans do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hughes was down.  No question.</p>
<p>Another matter to consider, though: After ND took the lead, on a 3rd and 10, Locker completed a long pass to get near FG range.  Watch the replay.  The UW WR loses the ball as he comes down and it hits the ground.  UW hurried to the LOS, and the next snap came before anyone had any notion it was an incompletion.</p>
<p>As a ND fan, I cringed when other ND fans cried about refs after the UM game.  We had our chances.  We didn&#8217;t make the plays.  Were there bad calls?  You bet.  It was atrocious.  But ND had its chances anyway.</p>
<p>Same deal with UW.  Hughes was down.  I agree.  But the Huskies should be looking at themselves after the game.  You can&#8217;t get 1 yard in 8 tries?  You can&#8217;t bring down a RB when he&#8217;s wrapped up at the 4 by 5 guys?  Blaming the refs is easy.  It&#8217;s why fans do it.</p>
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		<title>By: atrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>atrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry dude I look at the picture and see a black shadow under his knee right before he pushes up and in. your evidence has know value. sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry dude I look at the picture and see a black shadow under his knee right before he pushes up and in. your evidence has know value. sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Jim:

You&#039;re such a tough guy on the internet.   &quot;$#!^ like me eh?&quot;  Get a grip, and realize it&#039;s a forum for opinions.  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t read it.  But if you want to call names, then hide on a forum, that speaks to your lack of testicular fortitude.  Anytime you want to man up, I will be happy to slap the taste right out of your mouth.  My seats are in DJC, and I park in E11.  Just start asking for Big D, and you&#039;ll get pointed in the right direction.  I&#039;ll be sure you get taken care of really nice.  CLOWN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Jim:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re such a tough guy on the internet.   &#8220;$#!^ like me eh?&#8221;  Get a grip, and realize it&#8217;s a forum for opinions.  If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t read it.  But if you want to call names, then hide on a forum, that speaks to your lack of testicular fortitude.  Anytime you want to man up, I will be happy to slap the taste right out of your mouth.  My seats are in DJC, and I park in E11.  Just start asking for Big D, and you&#8217;ll get pointed in the right direction.  I&#8217;ll be sure you get taken care of really nice.  CLOWN.</p>
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		<title>By: Olydawg</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20159</link>
		<dc:creator>Olydawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great game, sans the replay booth officials interjecting themselves front and center.  Polk&#039;s overturn is a travesty, I have no idea if UW wins the game if they make the right call, but it sure would have been nice to see the game play out after that, unfortunately we&#039;ll never know.

ND played great, UW played great, looking forward to seeing how we respond against Arizona.

GO DAWGS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great game, sans the replay booth officials interjecting themselves front and center.  Polk&#8217;s overturn is a travesty, I have no idea if UW wins the game if they make the right call, but it sure would have been nice to see the game play out after that, unfortunately we&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>ND played great, UW played great, looking forward to seeing how we respond against Arizona.</p>
<p>GO DAWGS!</p>
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		<title>By: PJakers</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJakers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents, though not worth a plugged nickel in the long run, is that it doesn&#039;t really matter how this game ended up, though it would have been nice to end up with a W.

The key for the Washington program is being competitive on a national stage, as they have been in 3 huge games this year.  The LSU game was on ESPN and everyone saw what Sark was going to do to this program.  The USC game was shown to about 52% of the country and they all saw the camera shaking every time USC touched the ball.  This game was on national TV again and showed that Washington is back as a relevant program.  

Every one of these games is huge for recruiting purposes.  This program needs more athletes who are bigger, faster, and stronger than what we already have.  Washington wins that game (and probably the LSU game as well) if they&#039;re faster on the perimeter.  They were killed on short passes wide that turned into BIG plays.  This is a function of guys on the outside who aren&#039;t ready or physically gifted enough to play on the next level.

If you look at the elite programs, they all have perimeter players who will play on the next level.  Right now, I don&#039;t look at any of our guys out there and say &quot;He&#039;s a lock to play on Sundays.&quot;  That&#039;s where these games are going to benefit us.  Sark and Holt can walk into a living room this off season and say &quot;Look at what we did in big games.  You&#039;re going to get exposure.  You&#039;re going to play big programs.  We&#039;re a big time program and you&#039;re going to play on Sundays if you go to UW.&quot;  That hasn&#039;t happened in a long time.  Our last big perimeter recuit might have been Reggie Williams.  We missed out on Taylor Mays because we&#039;d fallen so far.

I died a little during the ND game, only because we really should have won that game, and that has nothing to do with the officiating.  However, I really like the direction we&#039;re headed and these nationally broadcast games will play a big part in that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents, though not worth a plugged nickel in the long run, is that it doesn&#8217;t really matter how this game ended up, though it would have been nice to end up with a W.</p>
<p>The key for the Washington program is being competitive on a national stage, as they have been in 3 huge games this year.  The LSU game was on ESPN and everyone saw what Sark was going to do to this program.  The USC game was shown to about 52% of the country and they all saw the camera shaking every time USC touched the ball.  This game was on national TV again and showed that Washington is back as a relevant program.  </p>
<p>Every one of these games is huge for recruiting purposes.  This program needs more athletes who are bigger, faster, and stronger than what we already have.  Washington wins that game (and probably the LSU game as well) if they&#8217;re faster on the perimeter.  They were killed on short passes wide that turned into BIG plays.  This is a function of guys on the outside who aren&#8217;t ready or physically gifted enough to play on the next level.</p>
<p>If you look at the elite programs, they all have perimeter players who will play on the next level.  Right now, I don&#8217;t look at any of our guys out there and say &#8220;He&#8217;s a lock to play on Sundays.&#8221;  That&#8217;s where these games are going to benefit us.  Sark and Holt can walk into a living room this off season and say &#8220;Look at what we did in big games.  You&#8217;re going to get exposure.  You&#8217;re going to play big programs.  We&#8217;re a big time program and you&#8217;re going to play on Sundays if you go to UW.&#8221;  That hasn&#8217;t happened in a long time.  Our last big perimeter recuit might have been Reggie Williams.  We missed out on Taylor Mays because we&#8217;d fallen so far.</p>
<p>I died a little during the ND game, only because we really should have won that game, and that has nothing to do with the officiating.  However, I really like the direction we&#8217;re headed and these nationally broadcast games will play a big part in that process.</p>
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		<title>By: Constable Echelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constable Echelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI.  Nobody here is anti-Sark by a long shot.</description>
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		<title>By: Big Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big D-- you&#039;re such a die hard Husky fan that you missed the 44-10 drubbing to open last year vs Oregon, or Oklahoma beating us 55-14???  We weren&#039;t even close to being in either game.  This year we outplayed LSU, beat USC, and went to OT in South Bend and we obviously haven&#039;t improved???  It&#039;s a shame that forums like this allow @#$% like you to represent Dawg fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big D&#8211; you&#8217;re such a die hard Husky fan that you missed the 44-10 drubbing to open last year vs Oregon, or Oklahoma beating us 55-14???  We weren&#8217;t even close to being in either game.  This year we outplayed LSU, beat USC, and went to OT in South Bend and we obviously haven&#8217;t improved???  It&#8217;s a shame that forums like this allow @#$% like you to represent Dawg fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majoirty of you are morons....the issue is whether on that particular play there should have been a review and was his knee down before the ball crossed the end line. Every one of you should agree it should have been reviewed, NO MATTER what happened previous or after. No matter what calls were right or wrong during the rest of the game. I saw the same thing on an HD TV using the exact camera angles shown to us on replay. It is indisputable his knee was down and the ball had not crossed the end line. No trick cameras or zoom. Case closed!! Admit the mistake, apologize, and try not to make the same mistake the next game....although everyone&#039;s comments are entertaining but really do no more than prove what&#039;s wrong with our society and education in the U.S.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majoirty of you are morons&#8230;.the issue is whether on that particular play there should have been a review and was his knee down before the ball crossed the end line. Every one of you should agree it should have been reviewed, NO MATTER what happened previous or after. No matter what calls were right or wrong during the rest of the game. I saw the same thing on an HD TV using the exact camera angles shown to us on replay. It is indisputable his knee was down and the ball had not crossed the end line. No trick cameras or zoom. Case closed!! Admit the mistake, apologize, and try not to make the same mistake the next game&#8230;.although everyone&#8217;s comments are entertaining but really do no more than prove what&#8217;s wrong with our society and education in the U.S&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s necessary to correct several misstatements in earlier postings.

First, this picture does not meet the standard of indisputable evidence necessary to overturn the ruling on the field.  While you can see a knee down (both in this photo and on the moving replay) it is not clear whose knee it is or where the ball is when the knee goes down.  Remember, it was called a good two-pointer on the field.

Second, Fig Jam incorrectly says that coaches cannot challenge plays.  In fact, coaches in NCAA may challenge a play once per game if they have a timeout.  Sarkisian had not yet used his challenge, as Charlie Weis noted in his post-game conference.  Thus, the Huskies have no one to blame but their coaches for the lack of review about whether Hughes was down.  For the NCAA rule on challenges, see:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_replay_in_American_football#NCAA_football  

Third, some mentioned that Pac-10 officiating is poor.  Yes, there have been historic problems, but those have been in favor of the Pac-10 team (ask Oklahoma about that).  Pac-10 officials on the field called the two-point try good.

Fourth, I have read some comments about whether Hughes was pushed into the end zone.  The rule on pushing has been changed since the famous &quot;Bush Push&quot; of 2005.  Players are not penalized now for pushing the pile, so long as they do not lift, pull, or grab their teammate.  The Pac-10 officials actually threw a flag on the conversion play, but then picked it up, probably because the head official corrected the lower official who was calling the old penalty.

Fifth, a much better argument for the Huskies is the reversal of the Polk touchdown.  From the review, it is difficult to tell whether the RB is in.  He looks like he might be a little short.  But it was called a touchdown on the field, and you need indisputable evidence to overturn.  Not sure I saw something indisputable on the replay.  

Sixth and finally, this win is no more tarnished than several this season.  College football referees are not as good as the pros, and unfortunately close games often come down to a few plays.  To the extent that ND receives less than full credit for the UWash victory, they must receive less than full blame for the Michigan loss, in which a touchdown by Armando Allen was reversed on replay that showed no indisputable evidence.  

I think the Huskies are an up-and-coming program, and I welcome them to the membership of the PTWSD club, aka the Post Tyrone Willingham Stress Disorder club.

Go Irish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s necessary to correct several misstatements in earlier postings.</p>
<p>First, this picture does not meet the standard of indisputable evidence necessary to overturn the ruling on the field.  While you can see a knee down (both in this photo and on the moving replay) it is not clear whose knee it is or where the ball is when the knee goes down.  Remember, it was called a good two-pointer on the field.</p>
<p>Second, Fig Jam incorrectly says that coaches cannot challenge plays.  In fact, coaches in NCAA may challenge a play once per game if they have a timeout.  Sarkisian had not yet used his challenge, as Charlie Weis noted in his post-game conference.  Thus, the Huskies have no one to blame but their coaches for the lack of review about whether Hughes was down.  For the NCAA rule on challenges, see:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_replay_in_American_football#NCAA_football" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_replay_in_American_football#NCAA_football</a>  </p>
<p>Third, some mentioned that Pac-10 officiating is poor.  Yes, there have been historic problems, but those have been in favor of the Pac-10 team (ask Oklahoma about that).  Pac-10 officials on the field called the two-point try good.</p>
<p>Fourth, I have read some comments about whether Hughes was pushed into the end zone.  The rule on pushing has been changed since the famous &#8220;Bush Push&#8221; of 2005.  Players are not penalized now for pushing the pile, so long as they do not lift, pull, or grab their teammate.  The Pac-10 officials actually threw a flag on the conversion play, but then picked it up, probably because the head official corrected the lower official who was calling the old penalty.</p>
<p>Fifth, a much better argument for the Huskies is the reversal of the Polk touchdown.  From the review, it is difficult to tell whether the RB is in.  He looks like he might be a little short.  But it was called a touchdown on the field, and you need indisputable evidence to overturn.  Not sure I saw something indisputable on the replay.  </p>
<p>Sixth and finally, this win is no more tarnished than several this season.  College football referees are not as good as the pros, and unfortunately close games often come down to a few plays.  To the extent that ND receives less than full credit for the UWash victory, they must receive less than full blame for the Michigan loss, in which a touchdown by Armando Allen was reversed on replay that showed no indisputable evidence.  </p>
<p>I think the Huskies are an up-and-coming program, and I welcome them to the membership of the PTWSD club, aka the Post Tyrone Willingham Stress Disorder club.</p>
<p>Go Irish!</p>
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		<title>By: Big D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a die hard dawg fan, but the biggest issue here is Coach Sark&#039;s play calling. Not sure if any of you are aware of this, but ex-players and/or coaches from USC and ND will tell you off the record that Weiss and Sark have a deep down disdain for each other.  We all know of Weiss&#039;s ego, and Weiss thinks of Sark as a young spoiled punk just living the lime light under Carroll.  Sark lost this game.  Coach, you have done a great job with instilling energy in the program, but let&#039;s get real.  We are still 2 and 3.  Which means, had we had Locker ALL year last year, we would be on the same pace.  People seem to forget: We were without Locker for all our most winnable games last year! So don&#039;t feed me this crap about improvement.  We are on pace for 5-6 wins, which is what would&#039;ve been with a healthy team last year! Now 7-8 wins this year.  That will be improvement.  How many yards did our D give up AGAIN?! I give them credit for nutting up and holding ND to several FG&#039;s, but come on Dawg fans. It&#039;s great to have hope and be excited, but realistic and quit frickin whining about refs. It is what it is. Which brings me back to Sark&#039;s goal line calls.  This was an ego battle between him and Weiss. Sark wanted to show that we were stronger, tougher, better, more willing.  He wanted to impose his will onto him through his players. He let his ego get in the way and it lost us the game.  PERIOD. I was watching the game with several ex-dawgs, and we ALL were screaming to fake the HB dive to Polk, and have Locker turn and roll for a dead sprint to the pylon. There is noone in the counrty that will beat him, especially when ND has all 11 guys within 5 yards of the ball. Coach: I expect you to man up to the truth at your news conference today, and bury this BS whining.  We have a must win with AZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a die hard dawg fan, but the biggest issue here is Coach Sark&#8217;s play calling. Not sure if any of you are aware of this, but ex-players and/or coaches from USC and ND will tell you off the record that Weiss and Sark have a deep down disdain for each other.  We all know of Weiss&#8217;s ego, and Weiss thinks of Sark as a young spoiled punk just living the lime light under Carroll.  Sark lost this game.  Coach, you have done a great job with instilling energy in the program, but let&#8217;s get real.  We are still 2 and 3.  Which means, had we had Locker ALL year last year, we would be on the same pace.  People seem to forget: We were without Locker for all our most winnable games last year! So don&#8217;t feed me this crap about improvement.  We are on pace for 5-6 wins, which is what would&#8217;ve been with a healthy team last year! Now 7-8 wins this year.  That will be improvement.  How many yards did our D give up AGAIN?! I give them credit for nutting up and holding ND to several FG&#8217;s, but come on Dawg fans. It&#8217;s great to have hope and be excited, but realistic and quit frickin whining about refs. It is what it is. Which brings me back to Sark&#8217;s goal line calls.  This was an ego battle between him and Weiss. Sark wanted to show that we were stronger, tougher, better, more willing.  He wanted to impose his will onto him through his players. He let his ego get in the way and it lost us the game.  PERIOD. I was watching the game with several ex-dawgs, and we ALL were screaming to fake the HB dive to Polk, and have Locker turn and roll for a dead sprint to the pylon. There is noone in the counrty that will beat him, especially when ND has all 11 guys within 5 yards of the ball. Coach: I expect you to man up to the truth at your news conference today, and bury this BS whining.  We have a must win with AZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Rico</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20136</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call that grainy ass phto conclusive evidence?

You know the one, the one where the player&#039;s knee is behind the foot of the opposing player and blocks the view.

Let me guess, you got your credit card out and couldn&#039;t slide it under the photo?

I hope you&#039;re not an attorney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call that grainy ass phto conclusive evidence?</p>
<p>You know the one, the one where the player&#8217;s knee is behind the foot of the opposing player and blocks the view.</p>
<p>Let me guess, you got your credit card out and couldn&#8217;t slide it under the photo?</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re not an attorney.</p>
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		<title>By: lahusky</title>
		<link>http://hotdogandfriends.com/2009/10/03/notre-dames-2-point-conversion-not-even-close/comment-page-1/#comment-20134</link>
		<dc:creator>lahusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great game.  Heartbreaker for the Huskies.  Could have gone either way.  Both deserved it.  A tough one and unfortunate the refs interjected themselves in it as often as they did and then being inexplicably silent other times.   That&#039;s what is wrong with Pac-10 officiating.  Not sure how it is nationwide.  Probably not much better.  Huskies had several chances to win this one.  They blew it, as hard as it is to admit that.  Time to move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great game.  Heartbreaker for the Huskies.  Could have gone either way.  Both deserved it.  A tough one and unfortunate the refs interjected themselves in it as often as they did and then being inexplicably silent other times.   That&#8217;s what is wrong with Pac-10 officiating.  Not sure how it is nationwide.  Probably not much better.  Huskies had several chances to win this one.  They blew it, as hard as it is to admit that.  Time to move on.</p>
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